Varkensrellen in Egypte
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Varkensrellen in Egypte
Cairo pig-cull protests turn voilent
Egyptian riot police have clashed with stone-throwing pig farmers who were trying to prevent their animals being taken away for slaughter as part of a nationwide cull.
Between 300 and 400 residents of a slum district of Cairo, where mostly Coptic Christian scrap merchants raise pigs, hurled stones and bottles at police.
Anti-riot police fired rubber bullets and tear gas to disperse the demonstrators, most of them youths. The demonstrators ransacked a police post and an officer fired warning shots in the air.
At least two protesters were hurt in the Manshiyet Nasr district of Cairo, home to about 35,000 merchants known as the "zabaleen" who raise 60,000 pigs.
"They want to steal our livelihood," said one of the farmers, Adel Izhak, before police started to take control of the district.
Similar troubles broke out in Khanka, north of the capital, security officials said. Police were already repelled from Khanka by stone-throwers on Wednesday after the controversial cull was announced.
Egypt began the cull of the nation's 250,000 pigs on Saturday, despite the World Health Organisation (WHO) saying there was no evidence the animals were transmitting swine flu to humans.
The authorities are calling the slaughter a general health measure. No cases of swine flu, or influenza A(H1N1), have been reported in Egypt, the most populous country in the Arab world.
Crucial income
Egypt's pigs mostly belong to and are eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority. Islam bans the consumption of pork for the majority Muslims.
The rubbish collectors, who used the pigs to dispose of organic waste and sell off some animals from their herds once a year, say the cull will affect their business and wipe out a crucial source of income.
Although no cases of swine flu have been reported in Egypt, the country has been battling an outbreak of bird flu for three years.
Twenty-six people have died in Egypt from the H5N1 strain of bird flu since it was first identified in early 2006, and the country has seen an increase in cases over the past two months.
The authorities have said it will take six months to carry out the pig slaughter and announced plans to import three machines to raise the culling capacity to 3,000 animals a day.
According to the government newspaper Al-Ahram, authorities plan to pay out 100 pounds ($24) for each male animal slaughtered and 250 pounds ($60) for each female pig.
- AFP
Egypt orders pig cull
Posted Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:25am AEST
Egypt has ordered the immediate cull of all pigs in the country as a precaution against swine flu, Health Minister Hatem al-Gabali said, in the first such move in the world.
"It has been ordered to immediately begin the slaughter of all herds of pigs in Egypt," Mr Gabali said after a meeting with President Hosni Mubarak.
He said slaughterhouses were to begin the culling process on Wednesday (local time) at the fastest rate possible.
Further precautionary measures such as the launch of an awareness campaign and an increase in the production of protective masks and the antiviral drug Tamiflu would also be taken, he said.
Egypt's agriculture ministry says there are 250,000 pigs in the country, belonging to and eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority.
Pig rearers in Cairo's slums - mostly Christian rubbish collectors - were outraged by the reaction.
"Our pigs are healthy. They are our capital and they have no diseases," said Adel Ishak, a rubbish collector from Manshiet Nasser, north-east of Cairo.
"How will they replace the capital if these pigs are killed?," the father of 10 said.
Ayman Saad, who raises pigs in Batn al-Baqqar, said authorities had told him he would receive compensation of about 600 pounds.
"How long will the compensation feed us for? A year? Is the government going to pay for our children's education?," Mr Ishak complained.
The swine flu outbreak that began in Mexico has raised fears of a global pandemic after suspected and confirmed cases were detected in parts of Europe, the United States and New Zealand.
- AFP
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 559580.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 556545.htm
Egyptian riot police have clashed with stone-throwing pig farmers who were trying to prevent their animals being taken away for slaughter as part of a nationwide cull.
Between 300 and 400 residents of a slum district of Cairo, where mostly Coptic Christian scrap merchants raise pigs, hurled stones and bottles at police.
Anti-riot police fired rubber bullets and tear gas to disperse the demonstrators, most of them youths. The demonstrators ransacked a police post and an officer fired warning shots in the air.
At least two protesters were hurt in the Manshiyet Nasr district of Cairo, home to about 35,000 merchants known as the "zabaleen" who raise 60,000 pigs.
"They want to steal our livelihood," said one of the farmers, Adel Izhak, before police started to take control of the district.
Similar troubles broke out in Khanka, north of the capital, security officials said. Police were already repelled from Khanka by stone-throwers on Wednesday after the controversial cull was announced.
Egypt began the cull of the nation's 250,000 pigs on Saturday, despite the World Health Organisation (WHO) saying there was no evidence the animals were transmitting swine flu to humans.
The authorities are calling the slaughter a general health measure. No cases of swine flu, or influenza A(H1N1), have been reported in Egypt, the most populous country in the Arab world.
Crucial income
Egypt's pigs mostly belong to and are eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority. Islam bans the consumption of pork for the majority Muslims.
The rubbish collectors, who used the pigs to dispose of organic waste and sell off some animals from their herds once a year, say the cull will affect their business and wipe out a crucial source of income.
Although no cases of swine flu have been reported in Egypt, the country has been battling an outbreak of bird flu for three years.
Twenty-six people have died in Egypt from the H5N1 strain of bird flu since it was first identified in early 2006, and the country has seen an increase in cases over the past two months.
The authorities have said it will take six months to carry out the pig slaughter and announced plans to import three machines to raise the culling capacity to 3,000 animals a day.
According to the government newspaper Al-Ahram, authorities plan to pay out 100 pounds ($24) for each male animal slaughtered and 250 pounds ($60) for each female pig.
- AFP
Egypt orders pig cull
Posted Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:25am AEST
Egypt has ordered the immediate cull of all pigs in the country as a precaution against swine flu, Health Minister Hatem al-Gabali said, in the first such move in the world.
"It has been ordered to immediately begin the slaughter of all herds of pigs in Egypt," Mr Gabali said after a meeting with President Hosni Mubarak.
He said slaughterhouses were to begin the culling process on Wednesday (local time) at the fastest rate possible.
Further precautionary measures such as the launch of an awareness campaign and an increase in the production of protective masks and the antiviral drug Tamiflu would also be taken, he said.
Egypt's agriculture ministry says there are 250,000 pigs in the country, belonging to and eaten by members of the Coptic Christian minority.
Pig rearers in Cairo's slums - mostly Christian rubbish collectors - were outraged by the reaction.
"Our pigs are healthy. They are our capital and they have no diseases," said Adel Ishak, a rubbish collector from Manshiet Nasser, north-east of Cairo.
"How will they replace the capital if these pigs are killed?," the father of 10 said.
Ayman Saad, who raises pigs in Batn al-Baqqar, said authorities had told him he would receive compensation of about 600 pounds.
"How long will the compensation feed us for? A year? Is the government going to pay for our children's education?," Mr Ishak complained.
The swine flu outbreak that began in Mexico has raised fears of a global pandemic after suspected and confirmed cases were detected in parts of Europe, the United States and New Zealand.
- AFP
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 559580.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 556545.htm
Hebr 6: 5 wie het weldadig woord van God en de kracht van de komende wereld ervaren heeft 6 en vervolgens afvallig is geworden, kan onmogelijk een tweede maal worden bekeerd.
Als er een almachtige god bestaat, dan is hij een sadist.
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hoe een naam kan misleiden.collegavanerik schreef: Egypt began the cull of the nation's 250,000 pigs on Saturday, despite the World Health Organisation (WHO) saying there was no evidence the animals were transmitting swine flu to humans.
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Hebben Moslims eindelijk een argument gevonden om varkens uit te kunnen roeien, blijkt het fout te zijn.
Hebr 6: 5 wie het weldadig woord van God en de kracht van de komende wereld ervaren heeft 6 en vervolgens afvallig is geworden, kan onmogelijk een tweede maal worden bekeerd.
Als er een almachtige god bestaat, dan is hij een sadist.
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nee dat zijn koptische christenen, die hoeven niet halal.appelfflap schreef:blijkbaar zijn er toch moslims die het lef hebben om varkens te kweken.collegavanerik schreef:Hebben Moslims eindelijk een argument gevonden om varkens uit te kunnen roeien, blijkt het fout te zijn.
voor hen geen maagden zeker?
AFP schreef:where mostly Coptic Christian scrap merchants raise pigs
Hebr 6: 5 wie het weldadig woord van God en de kracht van de komende wereld ervaren heeft 6 en vervolgens afvallig is geworden, kan onmogelijk een tweede maal worden bekeerd.
Als er een almachtige god bestaat, dan is hij een sadist.
Domme actie waar geen enkele reden voor is te verzinnen behalve dat het in een heleboel moslimstraatjes past aldaar. Waarom verbaasd mij dit niet?
Jonathan Rauch: (apatheism is) "a disinclination to care all that much about one's own religion and even a stronger disinclination to care about other people's"
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Misschien komt dat door vooroordelen? Niet alle moslims zijn radicaal en intolerant.appelfflap schreef:toch laar een moslimland toe dat er op haar grondgebied varkens gekweekt mogen worden? door christenen zelfs? ik snap er niets meer van.
Je weet ook dat er al eeuwenlang joodse gemeenschappen in islamitische landen zijn?
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Ik ben een groot voorstander van de uitroeiing van deze varkens mits tegelijkertijd alle vogels worden afgeslacht i.v.m de al 3 jaar sluimerende vogelgriep.
Gelijke monniken, gelijke (koptische) kappen zullen we maar zeggen
MvG, Wim Ahlers.
Gelijke monniken, gelijke (koptische) kappen zullen we maar zeggen
MvG, Wim Ahlers.
Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity;
and I'm not certain about the universe. (Albert Einstein, 1879-1955)
and I'm not certain about the universe. (Albert Einstein, 1879-1955)
Het nieuwe virus is een combinatie van varkensgriep, vogelgriep en mensengriep, ook alle mensen afmaken dus.
Alle gebondenheid kan vrijheid heten, zolang de mens de banden niet voelt knellen. (naar Erasmus)
Il n’y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent jamais d’avis ... (Jacques Brel)
En de mens schiep God en dacht dat dat goed was.
Il n’y a que les imbéciles qui ne changent jamais d’avis ... (Jacques Brel)
En de mens schiep God en dacht dat dat goed was.
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Theoloog
Dat doet het virus zelf al. Bovendien was het preventief afmaken nu juist een maatregel om mensen te beschermen.Kitty schreef:Het nieuwe virus is een combinatie van varkensgriep, vogelgriep en mensengriep, ook alle mensen afmaken dus.
Maar het lijkt er eerder op dat de varkens de overheid al langer een doorn in het oog waren.
Het gaat hier dan ook niet om varkenshouderijen zoals wij die kennen, maar om sloebers die varkens tussen het afval in de sloppenwijken laten scharrelen en het vlees verkopen.
Maar die overheid zou zichzelf nog wel eens in de voet kunnen schieten, want zonder die varkens blijft organisch materiaal tussen de huizen liggen en gaat de boel rotten en stinken.
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in dat geval gewoon een paar wetten uitvaardigen om varkens te verbieden. Er is geen reden dat de overheid zou moeten wachten op een griepvirus om die doorn te vernietigen.Theoloog schreef: Maar het lijkt er eerder op dat de varkens de overheid al langer een doorn in het oog waren.
er spelen dus andere argumenten dan het simpele naieve varkens-zijn-onreine-dieren-en-moeten-derhalve-volgens-de-koran-,-allah-en-islam-verboden-worden
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Dat lijkt me ook, want als dat het was had de Egyptische overheid al sinds jaar en dag reden om varkens te verbieden. Bovendien zijn ze in de meeste andere Arabische landen ook niet verboden bij mijn weten.appelfflap schreef:in dat geval gewoon een paar wetten uitvaardigen om varkens te verbieden. Er is geen reden dat de overheid zou moeten wachten op een griepvirus om die doorn te vernietigen.Theoloog schreef: Maar het lijkt er eerder op dat de varkens de overheid al langer een doorn in het oog waren.
er spelen dus andere argumenten dan het simpele naieve varkens-zijn-onreine-dieren-en-moeten-derhalve-volgens-de-koran-,-allah-en-islam-verboden-worden
Raven schreef:zinloze paniekvoetbal
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=96661According to Coptic leaders in Egypt, officials from the country's health and agriculture ministries who are known to be sympathizers of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood made the decision to slaughter Egypt's pigs. The Christians spoke to WND on condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation.
Het blijft een verbazingwekkende maatregel die geen rationele ondergrond heeft. Maar er zijn natuurlijk al bronnen die wijzen naar een andere agenda. Misschien is het helemaal geen paniekvoetbal, maar een aangegrepen kans. Om deze minderheid in haar bestaansrecht te treffen.
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