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Nou prima toch. Wacht op je krant. Verpak daarna de vis erin. En weet jij veel. Er komt inhoudelijk toch helemaal niets terug uit je berichten. Had ik dat al gezegd?
Hier nog even de gebeurtenis in zijn eigen woorden als onderbouwing. Voor eventuele wijzere meelezers.
“I am confident and cautiously optimistic that within the next year we are going to have a fundamentally different conversation than we have today. There will be new fidelity that will change everything.” — “No we weren’t looking at balloons, no we weren’t looking at drones, no we weren’t looking at aircraft. This is real”.
“All these video’s went trough a proper classification review process. The documentation at some point will probably come out. I’m not going to provide it. That’s not my job. If you want it get it from the government, they released it. They released, they authorised..I mean, let me get this straight: They authorised the release of those video’s and they did it in writing. Now why they did it, you have to bring it up to them.
“No one leaked these video’s. If that was the case that would be in an orange jump suit right now and I do not look good in orange”.
Yes additional details and fidelity will be forthcoming but one thing we have to make sure we do.
There is a difference between putting out information right and putting out information right now.
And I know people want information right now but sometimes that’s not the best solution.
“I think disclosure already occurred. I don’t think necessarily disclosure is an event I think it’s a proces” (Luis Elizondo)
Heeft deze man dus het object betast (tangible = voelbaar, tastbaar)?
Blijkbaar hebben ze dat vastgesteld met de daarvoor geschikte apparatuur. Ik heb er geen verstand van. Maar ze hebben inderdaad materiaal dat binnenkort behandeld zal worden.Rereformed schreef: ↑06 aug 2018 12:53Heeft deze man dus het object betast (tangible = voelbaar, tastbaar)?
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Elephant in the Room: Washington Post journalist Shane Harris raises UFOs and AATIP topic in a SETI talk
Full Audio: https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-pod ... ate-aliens
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The Lawfare blog which is devoted to national security issues, published a podcast episode on July 31 2018 on the SETI topic titled “Should Humans Communicate With Aliens?” Event itself was actually recorded on July 12 2018
(www.slate.com/live/should-we-communicat ... iens-.html) and moderator of the show was Shane Harris, Washington Post journalist who covers intelligence and national security issues. His bio is available at: http://shaneharris.com/.
Guests were Lucianne Walkowicz, the chair of astrobiology at the Library of Congress, and NASA astrophysicist Elisa Quintana.
Discussion started quite conventionally about usual SETI doctrine and potential detection of ET signals. During the second half of the show, hypothetical arrival of ET crafts and direct contact were discussed too. And then something unpredictable happened. On 42:47 minute mark, Harris suddenly pointed towards the “elephant in the room”. But what about UFOs?
Ms. Quintana generally replied and talked about the search for exoplanets as the proper path of inquiry. Ms. Walkowicz emphasized huge distances between starts stating that although public report UFOs, astronomers don’t see “alien space ships”. However, Harris continued with the same topic. He brought NY Times article, AATIP program, Luis Elizondo and David Fravor.
Excerpts from that exchange:
SHANE HARRIS: “…Navy pilots who had very compelling encounters with craft that couldn’t understand. … That shocks the hell out of me. And when you listen to this testimonials, and these are very rational people, these are pilots, these are people who know what flying objects are, they were not on drugs, they were not ill. … What you do with that?” (Mr. Harris actually referenced public statements of pilot David Fravor about the USS Nimitz UFO incident.)
Ms. Walkowicz quickly tried to explain those claims with the usual “spy planes” hypothesis.
However, Harris respectively continues to press on the subject.
SHANE HARRIS: “Not that I don’t like your answer, but I don’t like your answer (laughter from the audience). This pilot is freaking out when he has seen this thing and just doing things that I can’t explain it. I mean I cover the government, I can’t believe that they could keep something like that secret?”
LUCIANNE WALKOWICZ: “No” (laughter).
However, Ms. Walkowicz immediately picks up and goes into hypothesis of human interpretation of images, errors and Chinese lanterns. After that, Shane Harris closes the show.
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Previous Shane Harris reporting on the AATIP story:
This whole story offers another great lead. Shane Harris at one point in the show mentioned that he was fascinated with initial New York story and that he already discussed it in a previous podcast during the original NY Times release. I immediately did some search, and was able to locate it.
Here it is:
https://megaphone.link/PNP3447124824
https://foreignpolicy.com/…/rational-se ... -the-e-r-t…/
(AATIP section starts from 25:28 minute)
Hal Puthoff is zeker een speciaal iemand:“ https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/680562/Alien-UFOs-Luis-Elizondo-Pentagon-program-AATIP “ schreef: . . . . . Scientists employed by Bigelow Aerospace including a physicist named Dr Hal Puthoff came to the conclusion that the craft can effectively create their own time-space bubble, which allows them to fly at such incredible speeds.. . .
Ik zie wel wat het netto-resultaat wordt, ik ga door opgewekte nood gedwongen wat anders doen.“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_E._Puthoff “ schreef:. . . Puthoff and EarthTech were granted a US Patent 5,845,220[10] in 1998 after five years delay. The claims were disputed that information could be transmitted through a distance using a modulated potential with no electric or magnetic field components. The case is used for educational purposes in patent law[11] as an example of a valid patent where "The lesson of the Puthoff patent is that in a world where both types of patents are more and more common, even a competent examiner may fail to distinguish innovation from pseudoscience."
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The psychologists David Marks and Richard Kammann attempted to replicate Targ and Puthoff’s remote viewing experiments. In a series of thirty-five studies, they were unable to replicate the results so investigated the procedure of the original experiments.
. . . .
Massimo Pigliucci has written Puthoff's research into zero-point energy is considered to be a pseudoscience.[21] According to Martin Gardner, Puthoff (and Targ) "imagined they could do research in parapsychology but instead dealt with 'psychics' who were cleverer than they were”.
Hier zie je dus een duidelijk voorbeeld van misleiding.
HahahahaRereformed schreef: ↑06 aug 2018 20:35Hier zie je dus een duidelijk voorbeeld van misleiding.
En hoe gemakkelijk jij erin tuimelt.
Je hebt een theorie over de --- misleiding --- waar ik in tuimel?? Vertel....Een Anomalous Foreign Body Removal Protocol Team, waarvan een deelnemer werd veroordeeld wegens het uischrijven van recepten voor onbestaande patiënten.Workshop 1
. . . .
If you want to share your story of contact with non-humans that you believe are of extraterrestrial origin, in a safe and supportive environment, this workshop is for you. A full hour will be set aside for sharing.
Additionally, Kathleen Marden and Dr. George Medich will discuss the various types of contact and what to look for if you suspect you are an experiencer.
Workshop 2
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"How to Resist an Alien Abduction" Kathleen Marden presents a slide show on a variety of
methods that others have used successfully to end or curtail their alien abductions.
Workshop Kathleen Marden
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Her experience as a hypnotherapist has given her insight into a variety of abduction experiences.
Personally, she has transcended the shame and victimization of alien abduction and
proactively advocates strength and unity among experiencers of contact with non-human entities.
Workshop George Medich
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He also participated on MUFON’s Anomalous Foreign Body Removal Protocol Team.
. . . . { https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Medich }
Shortly after receiving an M.D. degree from the University of Pittsburgh, Medich had his medical license suspended in Pennsylvania due to a "guilty plea to twelve counts of knowingly or intentionally possessing a controlled substance obtained through prescriptions written to nonexistent patients and to people who never received the drugs."
en uit de lossere agenda:
4:25 - 5:30 - Form 7 - Entity Cases and Paranormal Connections with Ryan Stacey
{ https://aliencosmicexpo.com/ryan-stacey/
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. . He is writing his first book, “BELIEVE” , an Investigative Study building a bridge between the borders of Paranormal and Extra-Terrestrial Phenomena. Ryan is the Ontario Director and Chief Investigator for MUFON Canada (Mutual UFO Network) and has personally investigated over 200 UFO sightings internationally. On the paranormal side, Ryan runs a volunteer group, Black Light Uncharted, that has come into contact with apparitions, haunts, poltergeists and other unusual phenomena associated with the subject.
Ik heb daar geen verstand van. Geen interesse in.
Ja hoor ga gerust je gang. Het maakt voor mij niets uit wat jij doet.
1 september 2020 heb ik in mijn agenda gezet.Labyrint schreef:Ook de wetenschappelijke benadering en verhaal wat Elizondo verteld zal niet veranderen. Er zal alleen maar meer wetenschap en bevestiging bij komen. Officiële erkenning van het "UFO-Probleem". Mark my words.
