Ik geloof dat dit nieuws vrij geruisloos is gepasseerd, maar in het Europees Parlement is een resolutie in de maak tegen het creationisme.
De samenvatting van de ontwerptekst luidt als volgt:
Doc. 11297
8 June 2007
The dangers of creationism in education
Report
Committee on Culture, Science and Education
Rapporteur: Mr Guy LENGAGNE, France, Socialist Group
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Summary
The theory of evolution is being attacked by religious fundamentalists who call for creationist theories to be taught in European schools alongside or even in place of it. From a scientific view point there is absolutely no doubt that evolution is a central theory for our understanding of the Universe and of life on Earth.
Creationism in any of its forms, such as “intelligent design”, is not based on facts, does not use any scientific reasoning and its contents are pathetically inadequate for science classes.
The Assembly calls on education authorities in member States to promote scientific knowledge and the teaching of evolution and to oppose firmly any attempts at teaching creationism as a scientific discipline.
Lees verder op http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/ ... C11297.htm
Dit klinkt bij mij als goed nieuws in de oren. Ik heb nl. liever niet dat er les wordt gegeven met gedateerd lesmateriaal.
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Dit is zeker goed nieuws.Elberfeld schreef:Ik geloof dat dit nieuws vrij geruisloos is gepasseerd, maar in het Europees Parlement is een resolutie in de maak tegen het creationisme.
De samenvatting van de ontwerptekst luidt als volgt:
Doc. 11297
8 June 2007
The dangers of creationism in education
Report
Committee on Culture, Science and Education
Rapporteur: Mr Guy LENGAGNE, France, Socialist Group
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Summary
The theory of evolution is being attacked by religious fundamentalists who call for creationist theories to be taught in European schools alongside or even in place of it. From a scientific view point there is absolutely no doubt that evolution is a central theory for our understanding of the Universe and of life on Earth.
Creationism in any of its forms, such as “intelligent design”, is not based on facts, does not use any scientific reasoning and its contents are pathetically inadequate for science classes.
The Assembly calls on education authorities in member States to promote scientific knowledge and the teaching of evolution and to oppose firmly any attempts at teaching creationism as a scientific discipline.
Lees verder op http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/ ... C11297.htm
Dit klinkt bij mij als goed nieuws in de oren. Ik heb nl. liever niet dat er les wordt gegeven met gedateerd lesmateriaal.
Het grootste boek van alle, ik bedoel het boek van de natuur, ligt opengeslagen voor ons.
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Ik blijk iets te vroeg te hebben gejuichd:
European rights body calls off creationism vote
Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:57PM BST
By Gilbert Reilhac
STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) - Europe's main human rights body on Monday cancelled a scheduled vote on banning creationist and intelligent design views from school science classes, saying the proposed resolution was one-sided.
The resolution, which the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly was due to vote on Tuesday, said attacks on the theory of evolution were rooted "in forms of religious extremism" and amounted to a dangerous attack on scientific knowledge.
Believers in creationism or intelligent design argue that some life forms are too complex to have evolved in accordance with Charles Darwin's theory.
Some conservative groups in the United States, both religious and secular, have long opposed the teaching of Darwinian evolution in public schools but U.S. courts have regularly barred them from teaching religious views of creation.
Pressure to teach creationism is weaker in Europe, but an Assembly committee got active because a Muslim creationist book has appeared in several countries.
Guy Lengagne, the French Socialist member of the Assembly who drew up the report, protested after the Parliamentary Assembly voted to call off the debate and vote, and to send the report back to committee for further study.
"I have enough experience of parliamentary procedure to know that this is a first-class burial (for the report)," he said.
Deputies said the motion by the Christian Democratic group of parliamentarians also won support from east European deputies, who recalled that Darwinian evolution was a favorite theory of their former communist rulers.
While Darwin said mankind evolved through natural selection, creationism says God made the world and all life in six days, as depicted in the Bible. Polls show about half of all Americans agree with this while most Europeans support evolution.
Supporters of the intelligent design view want it taught in science class along with evolution. A U.S. court ruled this out in a landmark decision in 2005, dismissing this more recent argument as "neo-creationism."
The proposed resolution said the Council of Europe's 47 member states should "firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution by natural selection."
"The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of our societies and our democracies," it said.
The resolution would not have been binding on member states.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNe ... geNumber=1
Jammer.
European rights body calls off creationism vote
Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:57PM BST
By Gilbert Reilhac
STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) - Europe's main human rights body on Monday cancelled a scheduled vote on banning creationist and intelligent design views from school science classes, saying the proposed resolution was one-sided.
The resolution, which the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly was due to vote on Tuesday, said attacks on the theory of evolution were rooted "in forms of religious extremism" and amounted to a dangerous attack on scientific knowledge.
Believers in creationism or intelligent design argue that some life forms are too complex to have evolved in accordance with Charles Darwin's theory.
Some conservative groups in the United States, both religious and secular, have long opposed the teaching of Darwinian evolution in public schools but U.S. courts have regularly barred them from teaching religious views of creation.
Pressure to teach creationism is weaker in Europe, but an Assembly committee got active because a Muslim creationist book has appeared in several countries.
Guy Lengagne, the French Socialist member of the Assembly who drew up the report, protested after the Parliamentary Assembly voted to call off the debate and vote, and to send the report back to committee for further study.
"I have enough experience of parliamentary procedure to know that this is a first-class burial (for the report)," he said.
Deputies said the motion by the Christian Democratic group of parliamentarians also won support from east European deputies, who recalled that Darwinian evolution was a favorite theory of their former communist rulers.
While Darwin said mankind evolved through natural selection, creationism says God made the world and all life in six days, as depicted in the Bible. Polls show about half of all Americans agree with this while most Europeans support evolution.
Supporters of the intelligent design view want it taught in science class along with evolution. A U.S. court ruled this out in a landmark decision in 2005, dismissing this more recent argument as "neo-creationism."
The proposed resolution said the Council of Europe's 47 member states should "firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution by natural selection."
"The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of our societies and our democracies," it said.
The resolution would not have been binding on member states.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNe ... geNumber=1
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Och, alsof een verbod uit Brussel mensen had overtuigd. Wat veel beter werkt, is informeren. Uitleggen wat de evolutietheorie wel is, en niet is.
Die informatie moet geschieden vanaf de universiteiten. Daar moeten biologen goed ingevoerd worden in de concepten, in wetenschapsleer, en de filosofische implicaties (vooral de implicaties die je er niet uit mag trekken en de restricties).
Die biologen kunnen dat dan weer doorgeven aan hun leerlingen. Verder hebben biologen de blijvende maatschappelijke plicht om de evolutietheorie uit te leggen aan het publiek.
Die informatie moet geschieden vanaf de universiteiten. Daar moeten biologen goed ingevoerd worden in de concepten, in wetenschapsleer, en de filosofische implicaties (vooral de implicaties die je er niet uit mag trekken en de restricties).
Die biologen kunnen dat dan weer doorgeven aan hun leerlingen. Verder hebben biologen de blijvende maatschappelijke plicht om de evolutietheorie uit te leggen aan het publiek.
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maar hier ligt al een reuzeprobleemTheoloog schreef: Verder hebben biologen de blijvende maatschappelijke plicht om de evolutietheorie uit te leggen aan het publiek.
de mediacrea's zijn getraind voor propaganda en debat itt de wetenschappers.
tegen de crea oneliners kunnen wetenschappers niet of amper op (tijdsgebrek bvb). in de ogen van de leek klinkt het logisch wat de crea zegt.
Hier moet iets op gevonden worden.
En dan is het er toch van gekomen:
Council of Europe firmly opposes creationism in school
Thu Oct 4, 2007 7:06pm BST
By Gilbert Reilhac
STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) - Europe's main human rights body voted on Thursday to urge schools across the continent to firmly oppose the teaching of creationist and "intelligent design" views in their science classes.
The Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly approved a resolution saying attacks on the theory of evolution were rooted "in forms of religious extremism" and amounted to a dangerous assault on science and human rights.
The text said European schools should "resist presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion." It said the "intelligent design" view defended by some United States conservatives was an updated version of creationism.
Creationism says God made the world in six days as depicted in the Bible. Intelligent design argues some life forms are too complex to have evolved according to Charles Darwin's theory and needed an unnamed higher intelligence to develop as they have.
Anne Brasseur, an Assembly member from Luxembourg who updated an earlier draft resolution, said the report showed how creationists -- most recently a shadowy Turkish Muslim writer Harun Yahya -- were trying to infiltrate European schools.
"The purpose of this report is to warn against the attempt to pass off a belief -- creationism -- as a science and to teach the theses of this belief in science classes," she said. "Its purpose is not to fight any belief."
The vote was due in June but was postponed because some members felt the original text amounted to an attack on religious belief. A few changes were made to spell out that it was not directed against religion.
The Council, based in the eastern French city of Strasbourg, oversees human rights standards in member states and enforces decisions of the European Court of Human Rights.
The resolution, which passed 48 votes to 25 with 3 abstentions, is not binding on the Council's 47 member states but reflects widespread opposition among politicians to teaching creationism in science class.
Some conservatives in the United States, both religious and secular, have long opposed the teaching of evolution in public schools but U.S. courts have regularly barred them from teaching what they describe as religious views of creation.
Pressure to teach creationism is weaker in Europe, but has been mounting. An Assembly committee took up the issue because Harun Yahya has been sending his lavish Islamic creationist book "Atlas of Creation" to schools in several countries.
Supporters of intelligent design want it taught in science class alongside evolution. A U.S. court ruled this out in a landmark decision in 2005, dismissing it as "neo-creationism."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNe ... 5220071004
Council of Europe firmly opposes creationism in school
Thu Oct 4, 2007 7:06pm BST
By Gilbert Reilhac
STRASBOURG, France (Reuters) - Europe's main human rights body voted on Thursday to urge schools across the continent to firmly oppose the teaching of creationist and "intelligent design" views in their science classes.
The Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly approved a resolution saying attacks on the theory of evolution were rooted "in forms of religious extremism" and amounted to a dangerous assault on science and human rights.
The text said European schools should "resist presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion." It said the "intelligent design" view defended by some United States conservatives was an updated version of creationism.
Creationism says God made the world in six days as depicted in the Bible. Intelligent design argues some life forms are too complex to have evolved according to Charles Darwin's theory and needed an unnamed higher intelligence to develop as they have.
Anne Brasseur, an Assembly member from Luxembourg who updated an earlier draft resolution, said the report showed how creationists -- most recently a shadowy Turkish Muslim writer Harun Yahya -- were trying to infiltrate European schools.
"The purpose of this report is to warn against the attempt to pass off a belief -- creationism -- as a science and to teach the theses of this belief in science classes," she said. "Its purpose is not to fight any belief."
The vote was due in June but was postponed because some members felt the original text amounted to an attack on religious belief. A few changes were made to spell out that it was not directed against religion.
The Council, based in the eastern French city of Strasbourg, oversees human rights standards in member states and enforces decisions of the European Court of Human Rights.
The resolution, which passed 48 votes to 25 with 3 abstentions, is not binding on the Council's 47 member states but reflects widespread opposition among politicians to teaching creationism in science class.
Some conservatives in the United States, both religious and secular, have long opposed the teaching of evolution in public schools but U.S. courts have regularly barred them from teaching what they describe as religious views of creation.
Pressure to teach creationism is weaker in Europe, but has been mounting. An Assembly committee took up the issue because Harun Yahya has been sending his lavish Islamic creationist book "Atlas of Creation" to schools in several countries.
Supporters of intelligent design want it taught in science class alongside evolution. A U.S. court ruled this out in a landmark decision in 2005, dismissing it as "neo-creationism."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/scienceNe ... 5220071004
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Zie hierover ook
http://www.bloggen.be/evodisku/archief.php?ID=32
Met meer info en een paar linken naar de video van de
( franse ) pers- conferentie ...
de bespreking op Panda's thumb en
de officiele( voorlopige ) tekst van de uiteindelijk aangenomen geamendeerde resolutie .....
Ik wacht nog af in hoeverre de diskussie nog zal "losbarsten "---
Ik vrees echter dat de creato's en co dat niet meteen zullen durven ... omdat ze dan wel verplicht zullen zijn zelf de letterlijke tekst van de aanbeveling aan te halen / (te refereren ) en de Raad van Europa op zich , zullen moeten diskrediteren .... ( ze zullen wel eventjes de stille trom roeren ? )
Het is misschien wel eens interessant een lijstje op te sommen waarrond de kritiek ( hoogstwaarschijnlijk ) zal draaien
Eentje verscheen er al op voormelde ( amerikaanse ) panda's thumb
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/10 ... w-comments
comment #2 van Bumble Bee
Laten we trouwens afwachten hoeveel en welke leden-staten van de Raad van Europa de resolutie en haar inhoud officieel zullen ratificeren ... want uiteindelijk is dat het belangrijkste ....
P.S.
Het is ook belangrijk om weten , dat vooral het geevangeliseer van een harun yahya (= atlas of creation) de belangrijkste aanleiding is geweest : wat ten overvloede is bevestigd door de nadruk die de rfapporteur Anne Brasseur bij het begin van het parlementaire debat op dit "geevangeliseer " legde ....
Maar vooral ook wat volkkrantblogger blogger Roel duidelijke maakte in antwoord op het geneuzel van creationisten ;
http://www.bloggen.be/evodisku/archief.php?ID=32
Met meer info en een paar linken naar de video van de
( franse ) pers- conferentie ...
de bespreking op Panda's thumb en
de officiele( voorlopige ) tekst van de uiteindelijk aangenomen geamendeerde resolutie .....
Ik wacht nog af in hoeverre de diskussie nog zal "losbarsten "---
Ik vrees echter dat de creato's en co dat niet meteen zullen durven ... omdat ze dan wel verplicht zullen zijn zelf de letterlijke tekst van de aanbeveling aan te halen / (te refereren ) en de Raad van Europa op zich , zullen moeten diskrediteren .... ( ze zullen wel eventjes de stille trom roeren ? )
Het is misschien wel eens interessant een lijstje op te sommen waarrond de kritiek ( hoogstwaarschijnlijk ) zal draaien
Eentje verscheen er al op voormelde ( amerikaanse ) panda's thumb
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/10 ... w-comments
comment #2 van Bumble Bee
Een eerste aanzet in Nederland komt er nu al van het reformatorisch dagblad heb ik begrepen ?Let me see how many creationist responses I can predict…
1) “The Council of Europe is turning into the Antichrist, just like Hal Lindsey and the ‘Omen’ movies predicted!”
2) “Internationalist jackbooted thugs of the New World Order are subverting national sovereignty and censoring Christian belief to further their atheist agenda!”
3) “ID and Creationism are not the same!”
4) “ID does NOT deny evolution, it just denies Darwinian evolution!”
5) “They’re making evolution a state religion!”
6) “If science is right and ID is wrong, why do they have to use state power to prop up evolution?”
7) “It’s just a theory!”
8) “We’re being persecuted!!!”
Laten we trouwens afwachten hoeveel en welke leden-staten van de Raad van Europa de resolutie en haar inhoud officieel zullen ratificeren ... want uiteindelijk is dat het belangrijkste ....
P.S.
Het is ook belangrijk om weten , dat vooral het geevangeliseer van een harun yahya (= atlas of creation) de belangrijkste aanleiding is geweest : wat ten overvloede is bevestigd door de nadruk die de rfapporteur Anne Brasseur bij het begin van het parlementaire debat op dit "geevangeliseer " legde ....
Maar vooral ook wat volkkrantblogger blogger Roel duidelijke maakte in antwoord op het geneuzel van creationisten ;
" ....Als creationisten en hun broeders de ID-ers niet via slinkse wegen (de politiek en de publieke opinie) hadden geprobeerd om hun geloof aan schoolkinderen op te dringen, had de Raad van Europa deze drastische stap nooit hoeven te overwegen ..... "
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